My son has Leica SL and likes it the way you do Steve. It is also much larger than most other lenses, so it will be large! I have a question! Much thanks in advance. Any cheap one will do. Yes the “old” Leica SL has been a camera I have come back to time and again. Been a pro photographer all my working life graduating from large format Sinar in advertising photography to press photography for the last 30 years.. Use Canon in my day job and gave what some people would describe as a dream kit of every prime and zoom L lens right through the range probably well in excess of £30,000 worth. Thanks again for a great review. This keeps the camera lighter and well balanced as well as one of the best manual focus digital cameras on earth today. The Bottom Line With Leica-quality photo and video plus fast performance, the Leica SL has a lot to recommend. It’s about the image quality, not the equipment. Used S (Typ 007) with Battery, Dual Battery Charger, Booklets, Box, Strap, and USB Cable Ergonomically it works well and some of those R lens produce amazing results, even though they are @ 20 years old. As for the title of this post, “Is the Leica SL Still Relevant in 2019” I say YES, 100%. BTW, I agree with you on the 24MP sensor for full frame 35 mm cameras.. Steve, thank you for all the great in-depth information. Steve you have used this camera with a Nikon mount Voigtlander 58mm f1.4. In the few times I need AF, especially when someone else is taking the picture, I was wondering if the 24-105 would work? Well you’ve got a lot to answer for Steve. So this article was just one to write as I sit here on a Friday morning looking at the SL and S1 on my desk. The price is basically on pair with the Panasonic S1. Pound for Pound, Dollar for Dollar the Leica SL is certainly not a “value” by todays standards. Much like an M but with a world class EVF and no rangefinder to drift off (which happens with all M’s eventually). My blog, ohm-image.net, covers some stuff about the gear I use in work as well as reviews, and other stuff. They are better on the S1 and SL over the Sony. I set mine to A mode, and it has never changed..unless I changed it to M which I sometimes do. It is larger but after shooting the S1 or SL for a few weeks and then going to something else in mirrorless, well, those something else cameras feel too small, and some of them toy like. Explore our website to see our extensive inventory, and enjoy great prices along with legendary service.. Lovely lovely cameras that can stand the test of time. The SL Mot was mostly produced in black enamel and later black chrome, but chrome examples do exist. The Leica Monochrom Review Part 1. S1 : Simple 1 …… Few buttons. If you love Leica and have the cash and want a solid simple body that is easy to use and is lovely with adapted lenses, the SL is a camera that will still be as good in 5 years as it is right now, and it is still VERY good. Even so, this doesn’t mean the SL is outdated or unusable. Wonderful files from it as you say Steve, I believe the sensor is from the same Israeli company that makes the Nikon D850 sensor which is also a fantastic camera and gives wonderful files. some may say CL is it but butt aaaand its a Biiiig BUTT CL ain’t FF. The next image with the Voigtlander 35 f2 Ultron, then the 50 1.2 EF again and finally one with a Zenit 16mm f.28 fisheye. Loved the idea of an M Leica and the simplicity of old lenses but wasn’t sure I could make the seismic jump back to rangefinder etc. For me, the answer is emphatically and categorically no, the S1 for the money is the smarter choice. or for a greater three-dimensional rendering, which made these lenses famous. Solid clicks set it into place. The Panasonic S1 on the other hand is crazy good in the darkest of situations. 1st image below with the Voigtlander 35 1.2 II, 2nd image with THIS lens. Thanks Adam! FWIW I use the SL with my R ROM lenses. So the SL2 that may be coming this year may have that 47MP sensor! Use these two a lot on my M-E and M6 film camera. As increasing age weakened my vision I bought the SL along with the 24-90 when first released and then sold it some 18 months later due to the size and weight argument. I’ve been saying this ever since the SL was first released. Will talk more about it in my full review of the S1. Unfortunately (for me) if rumors are correct the new SL will be using the 47 MP sensor which is not a bad thing of course, but for me, I prefer 24 megapixels as it delivers the lowest noise levels and will also offer faster AF and possibly better DR (but don’t quote me on that). It's somewhat ISO Invariant from ISO 200 to 400 onwards, while exposure latitude tests indicate similar dynamic range to a Canon 5D Mark IV. Fot the first you would need very high resolution camera as the software interpolates while keystoning. So I wonder (and don’t a lot of you out there should also) “Leica please make a simple full frame house with a 20-30 mp sensor for the R lenses.” There must be hundreds of thousands of them out there and they’re so good. The higher resolution sensors will only further expose the shortcomings with rangefinder alignment etc. The SL is an alternative, if a rather costly and heavier alternative, to the lightweight TL. After reviewing my library of ‘old’ SL images, the fundamental conclusion is that overall, the SL delivered more consistent & better results than my M’s. The joystick has a more confident click when pushed to expand the manual focus area, the sleek back without buttons makes it feel more comfy in my hands. Leica TL2 Mirrorless Camera Introduced. For me, I fell for the SL build, sleek design and the fact is that it is not that much larger than a Sony A7 series body yet it feels much better and nicer in build (as it should, I mean, the SL even today sells for $6000). Steve, Sometimes I have to hand my camera to other people. The SL (Typ 601) was succeeded by the Leica SL2 in 2019. I thought about the SL, too, but now i stick with the M. I played with the SL and i would agree, that it is really a joy to use with M lenses from any brand. The only wide angle I have is a 15mm Voigtlander and it does great on the S1 without any issues I have seen. I don't like bags without a top grab handle and had my local sadler make one for my M (see photo below, taken with the SL of course). It’s versatile and fun, and can deliver some very artistic results via unique lenses. Heck I still shoot with a Canon 5dmkII and T1i. When it was released it was more expensive than it is now ($7500) and most just saw those huge native lenses for it and said WAY TO LARGE and WAY TO COSTLY! We will soon see glass from Sigma for this mount as well, which many will embrace but if you own an S1 or SL, I urge you to at least try one small M mount lens, even from Voigtlander. SL has a built-in Stereo microphone and a Mono speaker. The image rendering of the S1 is great but if you compare it against the SL, I find the S1 rendering more “sterile” the SL paired with Leica glass has something special that I can not reproduce on the S1 (with Leica M glass). Was wondering if you’ve shot the S1 with either the 21mm f/2.8 or 28mm f/2 aspherical lenses? The last with a Voigtlander 35 1.2 II. I am just not sure how they will compete price wise with the Panasonic S1R. Set those lenses wide open as well, and your S1 shutter selection to automatic to allow full sun shooting wide open. My bread and butter is audio/video/jewelry photography, […] A Year with the Leica M10 – A Field Report and Re-Review of a Modern Digital Classic, Two months with my Leica Noctilux f/0.95 by Jim Main. Maybe for you, but that is only partially true for me. Sure, the 24-105 is AF and will work just like any other AF lens on any other camera. I am planning to transition from my m9p to something. It’s main asset is the EVF viewfinder as the in body image stabilisation and better high iso performance. It will never happen but that’s because its an oddball idea and not many would buy it (but I would)! Image one with the Voigtlander 50 f/3.5. Thanks for the great review on the SL Steve. Nope, can’t shoot THIS lens on a Nikon or Canon Works amazing on the SL… Actually I should say I do not know how they will compete for the masses, as those who love Leica will understand it’s more than what’s inside, it’s also how its built, designed and the minimalistic approach to the camera body. Like you, I love shooting with the SL, either the 24-90 or the 50mm. To be honest I cannot think of any cameras that I have owned that have been a dud, well I did have the first Sony Mirrorless but it was awful with Leica glass, but they have sorted it out now. In very bright conditions, brighter than this early Spring morning in London, the SL would probably still struggle on occasion at 0.95. So I took the plunge and also bought the voightlander 12mm for architecture etc. thanks for the wonderful article Steve. There is the 50 1.4 and 70-200 but they are large. Perhaps your answer may come with a caveat about the type of photography one is most engaged in — but I’d rather leave it open for your comment. Optically and ergonomically, the Leica Noctilux-M 75 f/1.25 ASPH. Been niggling me that I wanted something to reignite the passion for weekends and holidays. The SL and Q make a fantastic duo. The dilemma is that the Panasonic is better in most areas of IQ and tech AND is less than half the cost of the SL. The Panasonic S1 Camera Review. I don’t understand why Leica refuses to do this. We can either crop half the frame away, or apply keystone correction, and we still have a very good file that can be enlarged to big sizes. It was a $35 adapter and they seem to have all sold out a couple of weeks ago. It is not an par with the best in class (not for panning around but who does that for stills anyway) but its sharp and bright. If, on the other hand, you bought the SL back in 2015/16 as an early adopter, then you’ve already taken the depreciation with fun and the joy of ownership factored in and in that case your SL is still extremely relevant , Thanks Steve, Leica Specialist. When the SL2 was announced, once again, standing in line to get the latest version, the SL2 is impressive; it has many updates from its new sensor to the electron shutter. With all digital cameras now are excellent tools that can take good pictures, the decision to pick a camera becomes more subjective, and closing in on preference which comes to the joy of use, our sense and bonding with the equipment. I am torn as I see the benefit in IQ and PRICE with the S1 but at the same time, to me a camera is more than a sensor so yes, I still adore the SL even with the S1 being here. The SL is still very reliant in 2019 but it looks expensive today as it did when it came out. It will take a while before other needs pile up sufficiently to make today’s 24mpix cameras feel limited and obsolete. If you are used to a DSLR like a Nikon or Canon, the SL will feel strange to you. If I did not shoot at higher ISO I would spend an extra $2k for the SL. The Leicaflex SL Mot was a variant of the Leicaflex SL that could take a motor drive, and lacked the self-timer and the meter switch in the advance lever. Your article is spot on as the camera is most definitely relevant! I’ve a question, please, because I’m considering a Leica SL — I’m a lapsed Leica user — and I’d like your advice. As a hobbyist, I’ve owned every version of the M since the M6 TTL and have always upgraded to the latest version. Part 2.5 is up HERE – Part 3 is up HERE The Monochrom and […], A Year with the Leica M10 – A Field Report and Re-Review of a Modern Digital Classic By Ashwin Rao – Join the Leica M10 Facebook Group HERE. I am not very fond of being in front of the camera and would rather be the one taking the photos so this is a rare occasion of posting myself What is the reliable source to buy? The smallest one that does is the Hadley Pro, which would fit the SL. Above: Leica SL and 23mm Summicron-TL. The Leica SL's 24MP sensor turns in respectable performance in our dynamic range tests. Understanding the Camera and vs FILM. The SL will be my “Go To” camera, but when I need something smaller and lighter, I will pick up the CL. I am keeping my S1 as it’s just so so good in so many ways. [Later on the day of publication of this article, Leica announced a firmware update for the SL which, among other improvements, introduced an electronic shutting topping out at 1/16,000, similar to that on the Q. But when shooting the S1 it doesn’t feel anything at all like the SL and I still feel the SL has richer and nicer color than the S1. Do I like the S1, yes I do. The S1 is serious and for those who spend $2000 or more on a mirrorless, this is one serious camera to consider as just like the SL, you can use adapters to shoot M lenses, Canon lenses, Nikon lenses. 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The new SL2 may well be fantastic but the SL will still perform for many years to come and is still relevant in 2019. still love my SL, don’t see what a newer camera will get me The closest thing on the market to a viable replacement for the DSLR is the Sony A7 series, but even with new cameras being released more often than iPhones, they still aren't quite there yet.Not only are they not there, they still have 3 different cameras instead of one. Love this camera with M lenses, and of course you can also shoot native glass. Based on your advice, I am thinking of getting an SL, albeit used. In fact, if you own an SL then it is still just as wonderful today as it was four years ago. With Leica SL, you can record your videos at a highest resolution of 4096 x 2160 at 24p fps and save in and MPEG-4 formats. Leica SL (Typ 601) Price Reduced to $5,995. I pitted the GFX50s against the Leica SL in the following video: You’ve probably forgotten about me. The S1 on the other hand is new, still unproven for reliability (but mine has been good so far) and it has the DNA of the SL all throughout and gets close to the SL experience, but not quite. Can’t say enough good things. Lens is always wide open, which works for me as that’s the only way I shoot ; ). The lens is truly a heavyweight for M lenses, but with the Leica SL it feels just right. ABONNEMENT À LEICA NEWS Abonnez-vous à Leica News. Leica SL + Leica 28mm F/1.4 Summilux. A very to-the-point answer was given by our own Rod Lawton. It has taken years for a better EVF to finally surface, and it is still capable of amazing quality. The SL is really a do everything rig, at least for me. I’ve been thinking about the fact that maybe we don’t need shift lenses for digital cameras (assuming sufficient resolution). Leica S (Typ 007) review – Dynamic range, resolution and noise With the S (Typ 007), Leica has adopted a new 37.5-million-pixel CMOS sensor that’s used only in this camera. That is a tough pill to swallow but now that the S1 is out I feel more and more will get a small taste of what the SL is like. The SL is $6,000 and the S1 is $2500. Checked out once more SL yesterday yeah it’s sleek it’s zen still its a Monsterr Truck when M lenses placed on it. But that’s the day job. The SL is one of those cameras that took a while for people to catch on to. Maybe with the next itaration of the M there will also be an new evf. Thank you for the reassurance that the SL is “still relevant.” I almost sold mine to get something more modern, which would have been a big mistake!! Your review of the SL and Panasonic have given me two alternatives. A Look at the Leica 90mm Summilux f/1.5 Lens on the M10-R and 907x. It is for those who want fantastic IQ from the world’s best lenses. However, that remains to be seen under intense sunlight when there is both extreme highlights and shadows. Quite the opposite. Just a different flavor ; ) Enjoy, it’s a jewel. The SL body IMO is nicer as well. The new Leica Noctilux-M 75 f/1.25 ASPH. One issue have though I have with the SL is the tendency to have the camera go into other modes such as P or S Mode when in A without much effort when shooting, especially in the midst of shooting in a very quick, rapidly changing situation; sorta like in the shooting in the midst of battle. If you are used to a Sony A7 or A9, the SL will feel LARGE to you but after a few days, my guess is that it will start to feel REALLY good to you. The only thing I blew was the white balance. Enjoy!! This means that Leica SL provides 4K (Ultra-HD) video. The SL is promoted as a camera system for professional applications. For me, the magic lies with using these small, manually focused lenses. On more than one occasion, our shoot-from-the-hip focal length estimate was off, but thanks to the giant .DNG file the SL2 yields, we ended up … Is the Leica SL still relevant? It’s four years old and still comes in at around $6000 for a body only (Update August 2019 – NOW $4500). I reviewed that lens on the SL, but I just bought one of those cheap $30 adapters from Amazon. I thought the author was talking about 1970s Leica SL, one of leica’s first SLR. Second, they're made for engineering quality without any regard for price. I had one until Oct 2018, loved it and only used it with Leica M glass, had a 50mm limited edition f1.4 on it most of the time. I don’t see those on the SL. The S1 is fantastic with all of the M glass I have been using, even the 15mm Voigtlander. It pulls me back like it has some kind of mystical magic mojo, a hold on me that I can’t shake. It’d be nice to have a stop button before changing modes as commonly found on the DSLR’s. With an adapter like the Novoflex (expensive) you can have AF and Aperture control (from the camera dial just as yo would on a Canon body) but the Novoflex is $650 – https://bhpho.to/2GDG2qn, The adapter I use is $35 and doesn’t offer AF or aperture control. You can get better performance in specific areas in one camera over another, you can get higher resolution from some cameras, but overall, a modern 24mpix camera and good lenses could keep most any still photographer working today happy for a lifetime. I am US/NJ based but I will try your link. Dick Ps. That Nikon, Canon, and Panasonic have 24-26mpix cameras released along with their higher-res sisters tells you all you need to know about the relevance of this level of photographic capability. Both cameras are equipped with a full frame sensor. I do not own the two lenses you mention, so have no way to test them. The Leica SL2 is hand-crafted in Germany, explaining just why why Leica is so expensive (Image credit: Leica Rumors). You may be surprised! I have been using Leicas M for some decades now, and I was glad to be reassured that M lenses work very well on the SL. I enjoy finely made things and for me the experience of using my SL makes me want to go out and shoot. The Q2 is a fixed lens compact, while the SL2 is a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera. The other problem is that taking pict with extreme wide causing extreme covergence the result is tha object seems to lean back as the lens is not parralel to object. Since the Canon doesn’t have manual f stop ring how do you set the f stop on the 50mm Dynamic Range. For me the SL is my favorite camera hands down. Wow thanks for the comment and your story! I also found it renders with M lenses better than something like a Canon EOS-R or Nikon Z (neither I would recommend for shooting M glass). As I get older I start to realize that newer is not always better. If Leica can make an M with just a B&W sensor, or with no rear LCD panel then surely they can make an M with a top notch EVF. Understanding the Camera and VS film. A jewel for under $1000. Get affordable pricing and unmatched customer support. Will I sell the SL? Large and easy to rotate to dial in the perfect focus for your eyes. New Leica SL 601 First Impressions and Review. Strange that you have this issue! I hear you and agree with what you say. C1 : Cinema 1 …… Buttons buttons moooore buttons 4K60. David Farkas is a self-admitted Leica junkie and an avid photographer since he was seven years old. Top with the 35 1.2 II, middle was actually with the 24-90 Zoom and the last with a 50 APO. I think cameras have achieved a sort of “nash equilibrium” at 24mpix and generally excellent performance from all ILC cameras. I use some to complement the focal distances of the M (180 and 280 Apos) on the M (240), but although usable is not optimal, mainly because of shutter lag.So what about the SL with those kind of lenses, so you have any experience (or know somebody who has)? Shop B&H for our huge inventory of Leica SL Lenses. Image 2 with the older original Leica 50 Summicron, image 3 with the Voigtlander 35 1.2II, the 4th image was shot with the Leica 50 APO (which the voigtlander 50 f/3.5 renders like, just with a slower aperture and for only $529. The SL was the camera to have had on that trip if only in terms of the versatility it offers in a single unit. It is understood that it will be outdone by newer cameras, but the SL will still be capable of producing fantastic images. There is a Novoflex adapter but that is a $650 adapter. It appears my ‘common sense’ is due for an upgrade, but the fear is the wife will spot ‘LEICA’ emblazoned on the front of the SL!!! Most cameras today trounce it there. It seems to just make me smile more. No auto focus, and I cannot change the aperture. If you have them, use them, but accept the limitations. To me, that would be SL. Sleek, sexy, smooth, solid, minimal and beautiful. As long as you do not need 5 Axis IS, Eye AF, or fancy gimmicky features the SL will be a treat. No adapters just a house. Below, Leica SL … I am getting older as well and with me my eyes, so manual focus is not as accurate as it used to be. Please! Hello, I’m Nathan. Are there corner/edge issues? The EVF was the best of the best at the time (now surpassed by the Panasonic S1) and shooting manual focus M lenses was so much fun but also gave back amazing quality. It seems that the UK Leica dealer has always a big selection of second hand SL models. The Leica SL is a full frame mirrorless camera featuring the new L Mount that will be used with Leica, Panasonic and Sigma. I use this cheap adapter for Canon EF lenses. They were sharper, and had less vignetting on the S1 over the SL. I have been talking a lot about the “old” SL for a couple of weeks here as I still really love this camera but with the arrival of the Panasonic S1, the SL is starting to show its age in some areas. Zen : stills only. If you are looking at full frame options, want something that has a pro solid build and FEELS solid yet nice, want the latest sensor tech and tech features, you must look at the S1. Expose correctly and you can get 51,200 ISO shots at night with acceptable noise levels, if you like the 1600 film look. Steve, Thanks as always for the thoughtful article. User Reports – YOUR views on camera gear! A Look at the NEW Sigma 35 and 65mm Contemporary DG DN f/2 Lenses on a Panasonic S5. I am looking for used SL in good condition. However, I don’t think anyone would suggest buying TL lenses just for use with the SL. Taller, but thin. (This auto chooses electronic shutter when in bright light). While it is well known that the sl lenses behave like native lenses on the S1, is the reverse true? Last 2-3 years you’ve cost me a bloody fortune! Then you reviewed the SL and I could see the benefits of having that body with a 24-90 lens that could do 90% of what I needed on certain jobs. I know most will be looking at the Panasonic native lenses like the 24-105 which I also have here, and it’s a good lens (but f4) and it feels like a kit lens. Used Leica APO-Summicron-SL 35mm f/2 ASPH (S/N 4788135) Leica Warranty Until July 2022 $4,795 I loved shooting an M but there were a lot of limitations if it was one’s only camera. You can check out the S1 at Amazon HERE or B&H Photo HERE. A few with the Canon 50 1.2 and the new Zenit Helios 40-2. Keep in mind I am using mostly Voigtlander M lenses. If someone asked me today what my perfect “desert island” camera would be I think it would be the current SL body but with the new EVF and new 24MP sensor. Leica SL sure thing seeeesh was Leica Q style small interchangeable 27MP ever in Leica’s pipe dream : Just with a much nicer EVF to look through. I would say it is still completely relevant. Microscope Central sells quality name brand new and refurbished microscopes for all applications. Absolutely not. Leicaflex SL Mot. Anyway, just wanted to share some of my love for the SL and now the S1. It gives AF and all function but it’s pricey. Hey Stephan, thanks for the comment. My advice is don’t keep changing cameras for the latest new thing every year but spend that money instead on a trip that inspirers you to take photos and enjoy using the camera you already own. I just love that 24MP sweet spot.

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